John Gruber

In Episode No. 80 of The Big Web Show ("Everything Web That Matters") host Jeffrey Zeldman interviews Daring Fireball author John Gruber about his background in computer programming and journalism; the joy of designing print layouts with QuarkXPress and the transition from print to web; why investors who are angry at Apple have it wrong; why some web standards geeks who once passionately disliked Apple have grown warmer toward the company; and the secret story behind the name, "Daring Fireball."

Links for this episode:

• Daring Fireball